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Epicurus.com - Reich: Different Trains, Electric Counterpoint / Kronos Quartet, Pat Metheny
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List Price: $16.98
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Manufacturer: Nonesuch
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Binding: Audio CD
EAN: 0075597917628
Label: Nonesuch
Manufacturer: Nonesuch
Number Of Discs: 1
Publisher: Nonesuch
Release Date: 1990-10-25
Studio: Nonesuch
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Editorial Reviews:
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Different Trains (1988) will probably go down in history as Reich's masterpiece. And deservedly so. Reich's phase-shifting minimalism is made dazzlingly entertaining in Different Trains, which is scored for string quartet and digitally sampled voices that repeat bits of speech concerning trains and Reich's experience with them growing up. The sinister part here is than some trains carried Jews to death camps. That's here as well. The Kronos Quartet has also never sounded better. Electric Counterpoint (1987) has one guitar--Pat Metheny in this case-- playing to 10 pre-recorded motifs, also on guitar. You absolutely need this. --Paul Cook
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Summary: An extended exercise in pointlessness
Comment: Most of the reviewers of this product have been admirers of Steve Reich's work, and I imagine that most people who have read this far will also be fans of the guy, so I hope that nobody will offended if I offer a minority opinion.
I am not an admirer of Steve Reich's work. I am not a fan of minimalist music in general, although I have enjoyed some recordings of earlier Philip Glass (such as the original version of "Einstein on the Beach") for their sheer energy. When it comes to twentieth-century composers, I listen to the stuff that people like Reich and Glass were originally in reaction to: Schoenberg, Webern, Boulez. If we're talking about American composers, give me Nancarrow, Zappa and even Cage.
I have listened to this CD on various occasions, invariably in other people's houses, and I am frankly baffled why anyone could want to listen to something that makes your playback equipment sound faulty. The lack of variety, the slow rate of change, the things that people who like Reich's music prize in his work, seem to me to be obvious flaws. I am, simply, at a loss to understand not only why anyone would want to write music like this in the first place but also why anyone else would want to listen to it. In "Different Trains", the ways in which the strings replicate the tones of the sampled voices seems to me a gimmick. It's cute for about a minute but it then becomes quickly boring, and after that maddeningly annoying.
This is of course because I am averse to minimalism generally. Rock music (which I like) can of course be minimalist, but decent rock music has an excitement and energy that I don't find in Reich's music. The only emotion that Reich's music inspires in me is a strong wish to turn it off. Frank Zappa summed it up for me in his one-word dismissal of minimalist music in general: "monochromonotony".
So, if you like listening to the aural equivalent of a Carl Andre arrangement of bricks, good luck to you. Happy listening. I do not want to spoil your enjoyment of this music, but I regret the overwhelming dominance of minimalism as the form of serious music most sponsored by major record companies from the late 70s to relatively recently. It's easy to see why Reich and Glass could be made into superstars; their music is mostly bland, banal and inoffensive and does not - unlike the work of Webern, Nancarrow or Zappa - demand active listening. You can put it on in the background and ignore it. In the meantime, far more inventive and involving music was being written, and major record companies wouldn't go near it. But that's CBS's and Nonesuch's fault more than it is Reich's.
I still can't stand his records, though.
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Summary: Breathtaking and Emotional
Comment: I heard "Before the War" in a Music class I was recently enrolled in. I thought the use of word painting to convey the sense of trains was fantastic, so i bought the album and checked it out. I hadn't head anything by Reich before, but I am so happy I bought this album.
It isn't for your casual listener. Don't expect to play this CD and hear a variety of melodies and arrangements. Different Trains uses minimalism to convey an experience that takes you through all aspects of World War II. The pieces also uses clips from interviews Reich conducted with people who lived through the times. At different times, Reich will sample these clips in the music, while the melody imitates. The second piece, During the War, immediately changes mood with its blaring sirens and darker overtones. The resolution, After the War, wraps it all up perfectly.
This is truly a remarkable album, and I recommend it for anybody who wants to experience an amazing story through deep music. Electric Counterpoint, while not as captivating as Trains, is also a fantastic piece to listen to alone with your eyes closed. Let this music overtake you.
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Summary: Trains
Comment: I wouldn't even bother calling it music. To me, it's more like a profound tonal experience, something the minimalists have been trying to achieve without much success imho, but with this one I think Mr. Reich has truly hit stride.
I grew up living near a railroad, and as a small child my first memory was a closeup of a steam locomotive puffing and clanking and moaning by; some sort of strange animal it was, with its powerful mechanical parts exposed. My mother, an accomplished classical musician, always said she loved the sound of the whistles too. So, it was quite an emotional moment to hear it again, with a string quartet providing the rhythmic accompaniment, no less! Thanks, Steve.
The air-raid sirens made it go even deeper.
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Summary: Essential Steve Reich
Comment: The two works on this disc are essential listening for anyone with even the slightest interest in Steve Reich. For those who don't know the composer, there are perhaps easier places to start - the Music for Mallet Instruments, Octet, Music for 18 Musicians, for instance.
It's now nearly 20 years since these pieces were recorded. Different Trains juxtaposes the Kronos Quartet with taped railway announcements, words overheard on trains, lines relating to train journeys etc. Throughout, there's a true integration of the form, since the strings pick up rhythmic and melodic lines from the spoken words, develop them, amplify them.
Electric Counterpoint is performed on an electric guitar. Pat Metheney plays against pre-recorded tapes to create something like a complex - but surprisingly easy on the ear - fugue (well, canon).
I have one criticism of the disc in that I have always found the recording quality of Different Trains just too much "in the face". It's too close for my liking, but the problem isn't great enough to detract from the playing or the piece.
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Summary: highly worthwhile
Comment: Different trains a very powerful piece, full of irony and juxtopostion that are used to the greatest effect. Its one of Reich's best, but it's actually not very minimalist for him, which may be why I like it. Of course, Kronos does an excellent job. Electric Counterpoint is pleasant for about a movement or so, but in the end it comes across as thin and dull compared to Different Trains.
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